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Frostys Virpio
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Posted - 2014.09.11 16:36:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Sibyyl wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Why do you continue to play and financially support a company that allows such things?
This is a good question. My answer would be that this game seems to thrive on company-player dialog moreso than any other game. The players have a constant hope that such a dialog is meaningful, and that CCP is the type of company to have one with its players. That conversation ended over here. But you also make a very valid point. Yes, indeed, I would love to see CCP step up and have a real dialog with us about this.
While I cannot even pretend to know your motive for asking for such discussion as I do not know you enough, the fact of the matter is CCP will not have this discussion because they know very well anything they say will be pushed to the very imaginable limit by people to justify doing something and try to make people feel CCP's action were wrong.
At the end of the day tho, what really surprise me the most about all of this is how people get bent out of shape over CCP's ruling stuff based on their gut feeling when the whole company is run based on gut feelings. People are all happy when CCP decide to make stuff in one way instead of the other because they feel like it and then the very same people get angry when CCP make a decision based on how they feel.
CCP are right to follow their gut feeling and keep their main product in a rather small niche market. This is awesome that they do not bend to corporate greed and just go with how they feel the game should be but that same niche playerbase should definately get exactly what it demand and not what CCP feel it should get. Nah at that point, them following their though instead of what some other people ask for is wrong now. |
Frostys Virpio
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Posted - 2014.09.11 17:25:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:
Why not just slap up a notification that says "remember: TS3 servers have a 'disconnect' button." and be done with it, since that's what seems to be the problem here.
There is also a button to terminate your subscription to the game if you do nto like the policy they have or the way they decide to enforce them so you can be done with it. |
Frostys Virpio
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:24:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:
There is, but the problem here seems to be that you're banning people who weren't even involved in outright harassment at all. Permanently. No realistic chance of appeal. It's absurd.
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How do you know those player were not involved in either the case everyone seem to think this ban wave is related to or any other less publicly known case? Are we supposed to believe their version because :reasons:? |
Frostys Virpio
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Posted - 2014.09.11 23:30:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:
There is, but the problem here seems to be that you're banning people who weren't even involved in outright harassment at all. Permanently. No realistic chance of appeal. It's absurd.
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How do you know those player were not involved in either the case everyone seem to think this ban wave is related to or any other less publicly known case? Are we supposed to believe their version because :reasons:? Are we supposed to believe CCP because reasons?
You pretty much have to yes. CCP basically press back the player getting banned in a corner for 2 reasons. 1- CCP keep to them-self the right to not discuss any disciplinary action taken on other player. 2- Even if the presumed offending player want to prove CCP's version is incorrect, they can't really do it without breaking other rules which can result in a ban because you can't share communication between you and CCP. One could argue that the system is broken because of that but CCP enver said their justice system was up for discussion. They always said they would handle disciplinary action based on their own judgement and no one else. I am not saying they are right or wrong but they are doing what THEY think is the best course of action. We can all cheer, whine, cry, celebrate or pray over it but in the end, our opinion as player means nothing in decision like that. |
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Posted - 2014.09.11 23:34:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:There's nothing questionable about it though. They're just not giving the player base in general any technicalities to latch on to. Apparently this upsets the space lawyers amongst us. They're also not giving people any reason to believe they won't be next, simply for playing the game as intended.
If you really did read the TOS/EULA you agreed to before starting to play the game, you would know they basicly gave you something close to that but also really different. The garantee they gave you is that they can ban you for any reason they see fit. You could prove to them and the whole community that every single one of your action were never not following the rules and also in the spirit of the rules for all rules where a human judgement must be made and they could still ban you. Always remember that when playing a video game. They don't have the burden of proof. The only thing they need to prove is they have still at least one admin to modify your account settings to a banned state. |
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